Franconia Beer Message Board
Ot: place-name adverbials for children? |
| Posted by Nick B. on 2016-10-21 12:17:56 |
| German rules of grammar don't cover English, no. But then, when you have a perfectly good English adjective like "Franconian", why would you say "Franken" when speaking English? Especially, as you say, most people don't know that the place exists? I thought you (and others) were trying to use a German adjective but not knowing about the required umlaut and formation of the adjective. But to set that aside.... Yes, "I hope Portland brewers learn to brew proper session ale someday" is correct, as there is no proper adverbial form of 'Portland'. But..."I hope Germany brewers don't start brewing vanilla stout". It works at the city level, but not national. "I hope Ivory Coaster brewers....erm..." Does it work at the state level? "It would be nice if Oregon brewers learnt to brew proper session beer." OK. And..."It would be fab if Oregonian brewers learnt to brew proper Kellerbier". Right. US states...either works well. (Massachussetts? Rhode Island? Hmmm....) "I hope Franconian brewers continue brewing lovely, unfiltered Kellerbier". Or..."I hope Franconia brewers don't start cutting corners like using hop pellets instead of proper hops." (Whoops...too late!) I don't see that it works like it does at the city or (US) state level. But again, when you have the English word that does work (well, sort of, I'm not sure "Franconia brewers" works as well as "Oregon brewers" does or as badly as "Bavaria/Germany brewers"), why use the German word, since, as you say, no one knows what it refers to? Seems to me that where there is no real adjective form of a place name (Portlandish...no...Portland), then the base place name is used. Where there is real adjective form (German), then that form is used. And there be exceptions, like Oregon/Oregonian, but is "Franconia" one of them? "It would be nice if Wales brewers made more American pale ale." "I like Welsh pubs." "Wales weather is tropical compared to Ireland weather". Tricky. Wait...Mrs is here...hang on...she grants you permission to be the first person ever to use the term "Franconia brewers". (Remember, she grew up in the country.) FRIDAY NIGHT WITH NO PROPER PUB Drinking overly strong Wallonia(n) beer in gratitude to our great, heroic Walloons, saving us from marauding Canadians. |